Is this a good summary of anarchism in Ireland to date?

Bobby
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Submitted by Bobby on 3 August, 2008 - 22:32.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Ireland

Asher "Anarcho-Kyke Federation Of Aotearoa"
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3 August, 2008 - 23:58
Wikipedia wrote:
In 1970 there existed a hippy commune in a squatted house on Dublin's exclusive Merrion Road known as the Island Commune, which ended when one mentally disturbed participant tried to poison others. Some inhabitants, including Ubi Dwyer of Windsor Free Festival fame, sold Freedom outside the GPO on Saturdays.

Is Ubi Dwyer the Bill Dwyer referred to in http://libcom.org/forums/organise/anarchist-movement-australia-uk-us-27072008 by any chance?

Boulcolonialboy "the meanest"
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4 August, 2008 - 13:53

No not really, obviously written by someone in the WSM and a bit scant on detail in relation to the north & Belfast - but probably just a result of their particular affiliation and lack of knowledge - although I'm sure they could read our Wee Black Book - a history of Belfast Anarchism if they want to improve it.

Also, saying Organise! was formed from the "remnants of" 3 different groups is hardly accurate and shows a certain bias, no?

Bobby
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4 August, 2008 - 17:08

from the organise blogspot
"The Anarcho-Syndicalist Federation, Anarchist Federation, Anarchist Prisoner Support and a number of individuals merged in 2004 to form Organise! to create a more effective and better resourced class struggle anarchist organisation in Ireland" Is it bias comrade?
http://organiseirelandwhoweare.blogspot.com/

I would be difficult to obtain the wee black booke considering it is out of print for sometime....

Congratulations on the new formation of the education workers branch, I hope it builds on the failure of the last 'initiative and is properly organised

weeler "temp banned"
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4 August, 2008 - 17:16
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
No not really, obviously written by someone in the WSM and a bit scant on detail in relation to the north & Belfast - but probably just a result of their particular affiliation and lack of knowledge - although I'm sure they could read our Wee Black Book - a history of Belfast Anarchism if they want to improve it.

Also, saying Organise! was formed from the "remnants of" 3 different groups is hardly accurate and shows a certain bias, no?

Why dont you edit it then. Its more or less that easy so long as you reference what you are saying.

Boulcolonialboy "the meanest"
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4 August, 2008 - 19:32
Weeler wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
No not really, obviously written by someone in the WSM and a bit scant on detail in relation to the north & Belfast - but probably just a result of their particular affiliation and lack of knowledge - although I'm sure they could read our Wee Black Book - a history of Belfast Anarchism if they want to improve it.

Also, saying Organise! was formed from the "remnants of" 3 different groups is hardly accurate and shows a certain bias, no?

Why dont you edit it then. Its more or less that easy so long as you reference what you are saying.

Will do, cheers. Need to dig out some old Antrim Alternatives by the Antrim and Ballymena anarchist groups as well. Bobby, I'd say use of the term 'remnants' sounds a little biased yes. Yes the Wee Black Book is out of print but a number of WSM comrades purchased it.

Thanks for the congrats, there are a number of differences in approach between what we are looking to do with the Organise! Education Workers branch and earlier, somewhat premature, attempt to set up a broader network from scratch. More info in time for the bookfair as we will be having our first Education Worker branch meeting at the end of August.

Bobby
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4 August, 2008 - 22:37

I look foward to seeing concrete results of this new initiative on the ground. Something I also believe as well as participating in the mainstream unions that the wsm should do in industries in which we have a few members.

Boulcolonialboy "the meanest"
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4 August, 2008 - 23:17

Thanks Bobby. Off topic your new tagline quote from Ian Bone only seems like half a sentence. If you were to build such a revolutionary movement what?

Bobby
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4 August, 2008 - 23:39

its taken from a larger quote of course.

weeler "temp banned"
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6 August, 2008 - 09:36

By education workers branch do you mean all the people doing PHD's or do you mean people who actually work in education?

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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6 August, 2008 - 12:37

Well, the people doing phd's do actually work in education:
Boul teaches at the Ulster People's College and has done for years, and I do some substitute teaching in secondary schools, and work part time for various educational research projects, and also for the univerity library wink

Not that this matters anyway. Oh the other people involved all work fulltime in education sector.

weeler "temp banned"
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6 August, 2008 - 14:11

Doesn't matter anyway, we both know education isn't strategic. What you gonna expropriate, chalk? wink

revol68 ""Identity is a dream pathetic in its absurdity. You dream of being yourself when you've nothing better to do""
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6 August, 2008 - 14:38
Weeler wrote:
Doesn't matter anyway, we both know education isn't strategic. What you gonna expropriate, chalk? ;)

more strategic than tabloid journalism what you gonna expropriate, lies?

Boulcolonialboy "the meanest"
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6 August, 2008 - 20:44

grin

weeler "temp banned"
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6 August, 2008 - 20:47
revol68 wrote:
Weeler wrote:
Doesn't matter anyway, we both know education isn't strategic. What you gonna expropriate, chalk? ;)

more strategic than tabloid journalism what you gonna expropriate, lies?

Expropriate teh hegemonies. Media is far more strategic, at least for getting into parties.

Boulcolonialboy "the meanest"
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6 August, 2008 - 21:05

You're already in a Party though aren't ye?

xConorx "facts tend to cloud my judgement"
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6 August, 2008 - 22:38
Weeler wrote:
revol68 wrote:
Weeler wrote:
Doesn't matter anyway, we both know education isn't strategic. What you gonna expropriate, chalk? ;)

more strategic than tabloid journalism what you gonna expropriate, lies?

Expropriate teh hegemonies. Media is far more strategic, at least for getting into parties.

oh yeah cos education has nothing to do with hegemonies wink

jack white
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6 August, 2008 - 23:48

never mind ...

rata "A Toad full Ruddy I saw"
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6 August, 2008 - 23:55
xConorx wrote:
Weeler wrote:
revol68 wrote:
Weeler wrote:
Doesn't matter anyway, we both know education isn't strategic. What you gonna expropriate, chalk? ;)

more strategic than tabloid journalism what you gonna expropriate, lies?

Expropriate teh hegemonies. Media is far more strategic, at least for getting into parties.

oh yeah cos education has nothing to do with hegemonies wink

smile

Khawaga " - not a legendary physicist."
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7 August, 2008 - 08:26

revol wins.

weeler "temp banned"
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7 August, 2008 - 10:34

But he's a pizza boy?

Refused "wee fuck'n' strings"
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7 August, 2008 - 10:36

That's why you should be ashsamed.

weeler "temp banned"
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7 August, 2008 - 10:39

I like being a tabloid journalist though. I get to push my zionist agenda.

gambra
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30 August, 2008 - 20:09

In the Wikipedia article it mentions Limerick members of the WSM, who are these people? Just wondering out of curiosity.

ronan
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31 August, 2008 - 10:41

I think there's just one, but I'm not sure since I'm not in the country any more. We've held a few public meetings there but haven't been able to get a branch off the ground as of yet.

georgestapleton "an indistinguishable part of a nationalist front sticking up for Irish independence"
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1 September, 2008 - 09:46

Yeah just one member, we've no branch there at the moment. So he's a member of the cork branch officially. If you want to get in touch and live down that way contact the cork branch at corkwsm AT gmail DOT com or contact us at wsm_ireland@yahoo.com or at http://www.wsm.ie/general_contact_page