they are essentialy hawt and rock.
thought crime ink
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* given the IWWs critique of workers' co-ops, was there much opposition to this in the branch/union? is it even a co-op, or something else?
What has the IWW got to do with this? Why would the IWW have a problem with it? A critique of workers co-ops does not mean members can't be involved in them as individuals. How is this any different from AK Press?
revol68 wrote:
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* given the IWWs critique of workers' co-ops, was there much opposition to this in the branch/union? is it even a co-op, or something else?What has the IWW got to do with this? Why would the IWW have a problem with it? A critique of workers co-ops does not mean members can't be involved in them as individuals. How is this any different from AK Press?
cuz AK press doesnt have merch that is hawt and that also rawks
x357997 wrote:
revol68 wrote:
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* given the IWWs critique of workers' co-ops, was there much opposition to this in the branch/union? is it even a co-op, or something else?What has the IWW got to do with this? Why would the IWW have a problem with it? A critique of workers co-ops does not mean members can't be involved in them as individuals. How is this any different from AK Press?
cuz AK press doesnt have merch that is hawt and that also rocks
you know what i meant smart arse.
actually the designs are alright but some of the politics are meh, the one about 1936 anti fascist resistance, television: consumer, consume., consume.... and the apathy kills one are all pretty lame.
revol68 wrote:
x357997 wrote:
revol68 wrote:
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* given the IWWs critique of workers' co-ops, was there much opposition to this in the branch/union? is it even a co-op, or something else?What has the IWW got to do with this? Why would the IWW have a problem with it? A critique of workers co-ops does not mean members can't be involved in them as individuals. How is this any different from AK Press?
cuz AK press doesnt have merch that is hawt and that also rocks
you know what i meant smart arse.
actually the designs are alright but some of the politics are meh, the one about 1936 anti fascist resistance, television: consumer, consume., consume.... and the apathy kills one are all pretty lame.
the blurbs make me sad but pimping fools for cash to fund working class revolution is pretty damn cool. maby you should write them an email with suggestions about the blurbs.
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the reason i mentioned co-ops is that there's a page on the IWW site that slates co-ops as being no more than capitalism with a smiley face. that's all. nothing to read into there, just a question out of interest.
yeah and they are right but how else do you propose flogging t shirts?
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revol68 wrote:
ftony wrote:
guys guys i'm not dissing it, i'm just asking if there was any ruckus in the branch over it. jesus...the only people who would whinge would be lifestylist pricks.
i thought co-ops and green business was for lifestylist pricks
Only if you think they are actual means of figthing capitalism, they are fine for a group of people wanting to flog political t shirts in order to fund some other shit.
Naw there wasn't a ruckus in the branch, hell some of us are talking about merging our book publishing venture, Black Books into it since they seem to be so popular, and we are so tiny. Technically it's actually non profit society, and runs as a worker coop insofar as it makes money, which with all the attention its been getting will likely be the case. The T-shirt designs are actually the result of a lot of beer and *other stuff* and us sitting around with crayons shouting slogans. The politics are obviously going to be pretty diverse, there are all sorts of folks in the branch with different politics.
The reason why its run as a worker coop is because capitalism with a smiliey face is still better than clean shaven small business yuppie capitalism. There's also another worker coop of sound technicians which is kind of coalescing around the branch. I'm trying to push worker coops to make a deal with us for their red card that they will provide sacked organisers with work until they can get back on their feet or back into a drive that way they actually provide something material to our organising work rather than just flashing the IWW logo around (which is handy).
Hope that clears things up.
haha, i was thinking about Black Books too!
anyway thanks for the explanation EW. i wasn't having a go or nuffink guv.
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I'm trying to push worker coops to make a deal with us for their red card that they will provide sacked organisers with work until they can get back on their feet or back into a drive that way they actually provide something material to our organising work
cunning and lovely in equal measures.
Yeah workers' co-ops to raise money are all good. Just as long as setting them up isn't revolutionary strategy.
The only bad thing about it is this:
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Celebrating the organization and resistance of the anti-fascist Spanish Republican forces and their allies in the international brigades.
http://www.thoughtcrimeink.com/core.php/merch/tee/nineteen_thirtysix/
I like this one:
maybe edmontonwobbly can tell us a bit about this little initiative...
www.thoughtcrimeink.com
three questions, which are merely for discussion purposes, i.e. not an attack at all:
* given the IWWs critique of workers' co-ops, was there much opposition to this in the branch/union? is it even a co-op, or something else?
* what sort of things are the proceeds going to?
* how come, when this website made by IWW members is so good, the canadian IWW site is so crap?
ps.
awesome t-shirt