for notch- classy picture of the train

Submitted by Bobby on 1 October, 2008 - 21:57.

http://www.anarchistblackcat.org/

1 October, 2008 - 23:31

Here is actually the bestest train I have ever driven

2 October, 2008 - 08:27

Anarchist Black Cat sucks at graphic design. Never trust a political tendency that doesn't understand the importance of aesthetics.

7 October, 2008 - 00:52

Okay, I give in (there were admittedly better threads to crack and post on than this but whatever).

Black (Wild) Cats and notch8's fav train are sound.

Tame, 'nice' Black Cats and slick trains with "a new world in their hearts" what-the-fuck? There is a reason that aesthetically Anarchist Black Cat is a mess. It represents 'anarchism' with no balls.

Mr Weeler (the Lundy of the Platform) is right - it is a tendency that should not be trusted.

One question, has an appropriate punishment be decided upon by the central committee for breaking the code and leaving the WSM?

ps bobby's attempts to plug ABC have reached new depths with this attempt to interest notch8

7 October, 2008 - 05:42

Project Libr8, on the other hand, is aesthetically sound. </blatant plug>

7 October, 2008 - 08:18
Reverend Tap wrote:
Project Libr8, on the other hand, is aesthetically sound. </blatant plug>

Except no, its not.

7 October, 2008 - 13:04

I hadn't looked at that site before. It is pretty damn ugly.

7 October, 2008 - 13:19

See Boul misses the railway. When hes at some high brow academic conference hes really thinking how he wishes he was back in the depot listening to the shunters talk about what ones off 'Loose Women' they would or would not, whilst eating a triple egg and bacon soda with their oil and diesel stained fingers.

7 October, 2008 - 17:00

I miss the railway so much I could almost cry

Not really, but sometimes hanging about w' you and other railway workers it feels like I never left. Except of course the shop stewards don't seem to be much cop since I went wink

It's also where I picked up my healthy eating habits. But more to the point in the railway workers control actually makes sense and isn't a difficult argument to make.
And I do actually miss loadsa the fuckers who work there and would make the prissie pricks on ABC shudder at the heck of the working class (that most of them seem only to have encountered in books - well except when they meet members of Organise!).

7 October, 2008 - 18:13
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
And I do actually miss loadsa the fuckers who work there and would make the prissie pricks on ABC shudder at the heck of the working class (that most of them seem only to have encountered in books - well except when they meet members of Organise!).

And some of them are protestant working class, how frightful!

7 October, 2008 - 22:09

grin

Wouldn't be welcome on a North Belfast Civil Rights Association March either. Capping the rents private landlords can charge and demands for decent social housing are, it seems, demands that are only applicable to nationalists! One out of the six speakers mentioned the campaign on the Shankill against private developers but that just made him seem a bit off message.

Notch8 felt so unwelcome he left early. I stayed but was decidedly uncomfortable the whole time, and not only cos notch8 had earlier pointed out that I was dressed like a loyalist paramilitary black bloc . The Belfast WSM looked much more at home though, chatting with former comrades in some new republican splinter group wink

Honest to fuck, one IRP was shoving his IRSP placard in peoples faces and when they said nothing he called them Orange Bastards.

It actually made me feel pretty sad. The best was the "every social wrong is because of the occupation, we have to fight against partition and get the Brits out before we can get decent social housing"!? That was the 32 CSM. Even Bobby was rolling his eyes and going "what the fuck?"

The point seemed to be to prove to SF that the IRPS and 32 CSM can get people on the streets from North Belfast - I really fuckin despair.

Shit, was that all a bit serious for libcommunity?

7 October, 2008 - 22:38

lolitics

7 October, 2008 - 22:44

Fuck Boul that sounds really shit.
From the call for support it sounded like it was well worth supporting, but all that baggage is fuckin wank!
Glad I didn't make it in the end.

7 October, 2008 - 23:39
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
Notch8 felt so unwelcome he left early.

He does this every time he comes to dublin to, do I have to bake him a fucking cake or something?

8 October, 2008 - 10:19
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
Notch8 felt so unwelcome he left early.

I had to go swimming. If it had started at 1.30 like it was meant to instead of 2.30, I would have stayed for the whole sorry spectacle. Its not my fault Catholics are too feckless to stick to a timetable.

8 October, 2008 - 10:42
notch8 wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
Notch8 felt so unwelcome he left early.

I had to go swimming. If it had started at 1.30 like it was meant to instead of 2.30, I would have stayed for the whole sorry spectacle. Its not my fault Catholics are too feckless to stick to a timetable.

Mussolini?

8 October, 2008 - 10:55
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
grin

Wouldn't be welcome on a North Belfast Civil Rights Association March either. Capping the rents private landlords can charge and demands for decent social housing are, it seems, demands that are only applicable to nationalists! One out of the six speakers mentioned the campaign on the Shankill against private developers but that just made him seem a bit off message.

Notch8 felt so unwelcome he left early. I stayed but was decidedly uncomfortable the whole time, and not only cos notch8 had earlier pointed out that I was dressed like a loyalist paramilitary black bloc . The Belfast WSM looked much more at home though, chatting with former comrades in some new republican splinter group wink

Honest to fuck, one IRP was shoving his IRSP placard in peoples faces and when they said nothing he called them Orange Bastards.

It actually made me feel pretty sad. The best was the "every social wrong is because of the occupation, we have to fight against partition and get the Brits out before we can get decent social housing"!? That was the 32 CSM. Even Bobby was rolling his eyes and going "what the fuck?"

The point seemed to be to prove to SF that the IRPS and 32 CSM can get people on the streets from North Belfast - I really fuckin despair.

Shit, was that all a bit serious for libcommunity?

no, boul I was quite uncomfortable with the parade(although I did know people on it), looked more like a easter commeration march and it was me who pointed out the IRSP placard waver acting like a prick.
The only suprise was that the 32 CSM were allowed to speak given SF staunch hostility to them in the past.
Finally, I dont think this campaign as it stands has the potential to build class unity around common struggles, nevermind achieving significant housing reforms.

8 October, 2008 - 11:45

32csm should never be allowed speak, ever. They are mental!

8 October, 2008 - 12:47

What the fuck?

What does it stand for? 32 County Solidarity Movement? Who are they, for those of us outside Ireland (brief answer is fine)

8 October, 2008 - 13:13

the more i look at it, the more it looks like it could be one of those class war parodies.

but the even more i look at it, the more i realise it's not and that it's the most brilliant flyer i've seen.

8 October, 2008 - 13:34
Asher wrote:
What the fuck?

What does it stand for? 32 County Solidarity Movement? Who are they, for those of us outside Ireland (brief answer is fine)

It's 32 County Sovereignty Movement, you can see it at the top of the flyer.

8 October, 2008 - 15:39
Bobby wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
grin

Wouldn't be welcome on a North Belfast Civil Rights Association March either. Capping the rents private landlords can charge and demands for decent social housing are, it seems, demands that are only applicable to nationalists! One out of the six speakers mentioned the campaign on the Shankill against private developers but that just made him seem a bit off message.

Notch8 felt so unwelcome he left early. I stayed but was decidedly uncomfortable the whole time, and not only cos notch8 had earlier pointed out that I was dressed like a loyalist paramilitary black bloc . The Belfast WSM looked much more at home though, chatting with former comrades in some new republican splinter group wink

Honest to fuck, one IRP was shoving his IRSP placard in peoples faces and when they said nothing he called them Orange Bastards.

It actually made me feel pretty sad. The best was the "every social wrong is because of the occupation, we have to fight against partition and get the Brits out before we can get decent social housing"!? That was the 32 CSM. Even Bobby was rolling his eyes and going "what the fuck?"

The point seemed to be to prove to SF that the IRPS and 32 CSM can get people on the streets from North Belfast - I really fuckin despair.

Shit, was that all a bit serious for libcommunity?

no, boul I was quite uncomfortable with the parade(although I did know people on it), looked more like a easter commeration march and it was me who pointed out the IRSP placard waver acting like a prick.
The only suprise was that the 32 CSM were allowed to speak given SF staunch hostility to them in the past.
Finally, I dont think this campaign as it stands has the potential to build class unity around common struggles, nevermind achieving significant housing reforms.

Notice the smiley wink smiley? Or the joke about mesel' bein' dressed like a loyalist paramilitary? No, obviously. I only said felt "more comfortable" not comfortable ffs. Also I knew notch8 went to go swimming as well, not that he had been driven off or left because he couldn't hack the chuckiness of the whole thing... It all gets a bit tedious when you have to explain that I tried to include a certain amount of sarkiness sad

I heard SF had tried to stop this march and when it was clear it would be going ahead sent along their councillor to address it - so I think that the IRSP and 32 CSM were always going to be speaking at it. Note I said you were rolling yer eyes and saying "what the fuck" when the 32 CSM were speaking?

I reckon campaigning around social housing has the potential to build class unity but unfortunately we're up against people who cannot see beyond the ends of their sectarian and communal noses who are intent on a sectarian carve up of campaigns.

And sure, no campaign will achieve significant housing reforms, not until we get rid of the Brits, weren't you paying attention? wink

8 October, 2008 - 16:03
Asher wrote:
What the fuck?

What does it stand for? 32 County Solidarity Movement? Who are they, for those of us outside Ireland (brief answer is fine)

32CSM is basically the political wing of the Real IRA yo put it midely

8 October, 2008 - 18:32
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
Bobby wrote:
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
grin

Wouldn't be welcome on a North Belfast Civil Rights Association March either. Capping the rents private landlords can charge and demands for decent social housing are, it seems, demands that are only applicable to nationalists! One out of the six speakers mentioned the campaign on the Shankill against private developers but that just made him seem a bit off message.

Notch8 felt so unwelcome he left early. I stayed but was decidedly uncomfortable the whole time, and not only cos notch8 had earlier pointed out that I was dressed like a loyalist paramilitary black bloc . The Belfast WSM looked much more at home though, chatting with former comrades in some new republican splinter group wink

Honest to fuck, one IRP was shoving his IRSP placard in peoples faces and when they said nothing he called them Orange Bastards.

It actually made me feel pretty sad. The best was the "every social wrong is because of the occupation, we have to fight against partition and get the Brits out before we can get decent social housing"!? That was the 32 CSM. Even Bobby was rolling his eyes and going "what the fuck?"

The point seemed to be to prove to SF that the IRPS and 32 CSM can get people on the streets from North Belfast - I really fuckin despair.

Shit, was that all a bit serious for libcommunity?

no, boul I was quite uncomfortable with the parade(although I did know people on it), looked more like a easter commeration march and it was me who pointed out the IRSP placard waver acting like a prick.
The only suprise was that the 32 CSM were allowed to speak given SF staunch hostility to them in the past.
Finally, I dont think this campaign as it stands has the potential to build class unity around common struggles, nevermind achieving significant housing reforms.

Notice the smiley wink smiley? Or the joke about mesel' bein' dressed like a loyalist paramilitary? No, obviously. I only said felt "more comfortable" not comfortable ffs. Also I knew notch8 went to go swimming as well, not that he had been driven off or left because he couldn't hack the chuckiness of the whole thing... It all gets a bit tedious when you have to explain that I tried to include a certain amount of sarkiness sad

I heard SF had tried to stop this march and when it was clear it would be going ahead sent along their councillor to address it - so I think that the IRSP and 32 CSM were always going to be speaking at it. Note I said you were rolling yer eyes and saying "what the fuck" when the 32 CSM were speaking?

I reckon campaigning around social housing has the potential to build class unity but unfortunately we're up against people who cannot see beyond the ends of their sectarian and communal noses who are intent on a sectarian carve up of campaigns.

And sure, no campaign will achieve significant housing reforms, not until we get rid of the Brits, weren't you paying attention? wink

1. plant omagh bomb
2. brits leave
3. ??????
4. social housing!

9 October, 2008 - 06:21

madashell - yeah, woops, just noticed that!

Bobby - cheers. they sound fucking nuts. I now know who the real IRA now, thanks to a couple of WSMers who answered my confused wonderings about all the Irish groups while I was over.

9 October, 2008 - 08:05

Depending on which wsm members you asked, god help you.

10 October, 2008 - 11:28
weeler wrote:
Depending on which wsm members you asked, god help you.

yeah?

10 October, 2008 - 11:52
jack white wrote:
weeler wrote:
Depending on which wsm members you asked, god help you.

yeah?

Some are quite excitable on the subject of republicanism, comrade. Especially if there is booze.